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Identical twins may not have identical genes

April 8th 2008 08:44
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Interesting news to come out of Scientific American today... researchers in Alabama have found that identical twins may not actually have identical genes.


It's huge, really... after all, identical twins have helped researchers in their quest to pinpoint the origins of human behaviour. In fact, I'd suspect that quite a few psychologists have based their research on the idea that twins were genetically the same... the proposed idea may throw that out of whack.

Or will it? Psychologists might want to play this down:

""It's pretty unlikely they're going to significantly change any of the results found so far," counters Kerry Jang, a psychologist at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, who runs Canada's largest twin study. "We can adjust our models to take [genetic differences] into account in the same way we've adjusted for different environments.""

Jang doesn't seem worried, but that might be to preserve the integrity of the research. What are these models that have to be adjusted?

While the DNA between twins is similar enough, there happen to be a few sites where there are not exact copies, which may be enough to cause a few effects:

"For example, one twin in Bruder's study was missing some genes on particular chromosomes that indicated a risk of leukemia, which he indeed suffered. The other twin did not."





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Comment by Cheryl J

April 8th 2008 11:12
Wow that's really interesting about the leukemia gene. I actually read recently that when a person gets a bone marrow transplant where their own marrow is destroyed, they take on the blood DNA profile of the donor but other bodily fluids such as saliva retains the original DNA.

Comment by Sara Dobson

April 8th 2008 12:34
Really interesting post. I went to school with identical twins and the only time I could tell them apart was when they stood next to each other, one was slightly taller so maybe slightly differents genes explains it.

Comment by Damo

April 8th 2008 12:59
Cibbauno
This gives an interesting addition to the story

It has been common knowledge for over 20 years that genes do intentionally jumble themselves slightly and refuse to run te same way each time.(yes I used to read scan am back then too whilst studying Biology. Which I decided not to go into.)

Yet there are two issues with genes that few people talk about.
One is the code and the other the expression of that code.

Phenotype vs Genotype argument.
Meaning that identical twins will never really be identical. A cloning a dead son will only produce a different son.




Comment by Cibbuano

April 8th 2008 21:03
cheryl, sounds like a weird mix of DNA..

sara, it's an old question: how much does the environment affect devlopment?

Damo, a different son, sure. Would he look like your original son? How much? How different?


Comment by Damo

April 8th 2008 23:24
Cibbauno

There have been a lot of studies on identical twins that look at only what is the same. Yet we do know that even the physical characteristics of identical twins is never the same. One is taller, the other slightly different colored eyes. Then they may have different personal interests and obviously different personalities.

Many arguments abound about this often use the Nurture vs Nature comparison. Even a prenatal can have variations that cause changes. Then there is micro level of the environment. Is the chemistry exactly the same at the microscopic level. Then go down to the genetic level is the chemistry identical each time the DNA protein is read. Then you have to look at how that reading of the protein is converted into cellular activity. (DNA to RNA etc)

The only opinion I can express (and it is just a personal opinion) is that any claim to a simplified answer seems very much over simplified.

Comment by Louie

April 9th 2008 02:12
wow, amazing, i guess it makes sense like when there is one gay twin and one straight twin etc

Comment by Timothy Powell

October 3rd 2008 05:49
identical twins have different fingerprints for anyone who's having difficulty telling the difference. I didn't read the article what was different? i'm guessing some regulatory regions? though the leukemia sounds like a large deletion which represents a chromosomal abnormality which can occur during early development this would probably be discovered by traditional cytogenetic techniques. I assume that before the deletion that the twins indeed did have the same genotype at that position on the chromosome is there evidence of polymorphism in any exons in terms of other alelles? Damo
you are right about the problem of expression it is the biggest problem facing genetics the regulation of genes is going to be a central area of genetic research for many years to come

Comment by Timothy Powell

October 3rd 2008 05:49
identical twins have different fingerprints for anyone who's having difficulty telling the difference. I didn't read the article what was different? i'm guessing some regulatory regions? though the leukemia sounds like a large deletion which represents a chromosomal abnormality which can occur during early development this would probably be discovered by traditional cytogenetic techniques. I assume that before the deletion that the twins indeed did have the same genotype at that position on the chromosome is there evidence of polymorphism in any exons in terms of other alelles? Damo
you are right about the problem of expression it is the biggest problem facing genetics the regulation of genes is going to be a central area of genetic research for many years to come

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